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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Does anyone listen much to the studio albums ? I don't . If pressed to for my favorites , they are the ones that have things that are very different that the live versions of the songs , or songs not done much, or at all, live .
1. First side of Anthem"
2. "Aox." for my favorite Dead studio performance/song "Mts. of the Moon".
3. Blues for Allah , for the title track, and the rather different feel the songs have
than , the live versions .
4. "Side 2" of Terrapin,just to hear what they never really bothered to do ( also, on that note :Hunter's longer version ).

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Poster: DrRobertWhipple Date: Mar 7, 2010 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

The ones I listen to the most are:

Go to Heaven
Shakedown Street
Terrapin Station

I only listen to these because the studio versions sound very clean and have a very different sound then live recordings. They use studio effects that never surface the same way in live performances.

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

believe or not i still enjoy the built to last cd.also like the wake of the flood and mars hotel they still get a spin every once in awhile.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6MCvMONVM

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Mar 7, 2010 2:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Anthem of The Sun , Workingman's Dead and American Beauty for me.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I love the first album, and those songs don't really sound that way live (plus there's Golden Road, which there aren't really any good, complete live versions of).

Also, the studio 'China Cat' on Aoxo has those hilarious vocals that are always fun to hear... 'Chiiiiina Cat!'

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

And just where were you when I was in dire straights of late? All alone, battling the forces of...of...well, okay, not exactly evil, but battling nonetheless...

Harrumph, as SDH would note...

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 6, 2010 9:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I was... um, I was... Listening to the Fillmore '69 Box Set, that's what I wuz doin! And it takes awhile, as you know. Sorry if you needed help...

And I hope you are well, William Tell!

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2010-03-07 05:13:37

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Well, since we both love the first album...what can I say? I never really felt imperiled, as of course, I assume Rob, Dire and other like minded pitbulls are resting nearby, itching for a fight or a defense, or maybe just enjoying a good blood letting? Hmmm...

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Now I've read the thread in question. Hmm, lots of knee-jerk reactions, accent on 'jerk.' There's no way I could think enjoyment of the Dead depended on live shows: I only ever saw one, and it sucked big time (and it was an NYE, to boot!) Radio broadcasts were my 'live experience' and I enjoyed the hell out of them...

(reposting below)


:)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Ah--see? I knew I NEEDED you around here...

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Thank ya, Thank ya... (Jerry Voice). :)

Anyway, "The Wheel" never sounded that great live, and then there's the studio version... which causes a consistent, out-of-body experience in this listener... so people who don't listen to the studio stuff are missing out. Even the studio Dark Star (Under 3 minutes long!) has some nice things about it...

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2010-03-06 20:48:11

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Poster: spacedface Date: Mar 6, 2010 9:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Blues for Allah and Garcia are my fav studio ones.

There's much good stuff on other ones but now with custom CDs and an iPod, I can trim out the lessor versions. Terrapin is good, but I fade out when the English fanfare takes over.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Mar 6, 2010 9:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Oh God, yes. And that Choir, that seems really out-of-place to me. "Terrapin!"

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Mar 8, 2010 3:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

It sounded like The Grateful Dead covering Jethro Tull.

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Poster: spacedface Date: Mar 8, 2010 2:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Like Terrapin in concert, on record it goes on far too long repeating the same thing.

It would have been better to reduce the fanfare drastically and morph to Transit and out. Maybe the producer thought the stuff waiting in the wings was too weak.

I'm not sure if Terrapin itself was limiting, but the best the Grateful Dead did with it was fading to Drums. Was there ever a segue to another song?

Oh yeah, Garcia. I liked the sound collage stuff too, and esp the crazy graphic in the songbook. It's not mentioned much but parts were heard on demo reels and a Cher perfume commercial.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 8, 2010 2:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Damn...where were all of you when I needed you in the great Terrapin as melodrama debate some months ago with Trumpethead?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 7, 2010 9:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I know we mentioned Wheel, BUT you are right to list the Garcia album! I always forget to, but I rank it right behind Beaut/Work for top studio output! Big oversight on my part...

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Mar 6, 2010 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Yeah, "Golden Road", is one that, based on the pittyful meager selection of 67, tapes, is better on the album . AOX. should be on my list , "WBOTB", and yes the "Chinacat", also the self contained "St. Sthephen" ,and the spacey "Cosmic Charlie".
Working Man's. and American Beauty, are the Grateful Dead's entries into the "great rock albums" pantheon ; but I like all those songs live better . Sometimes it is nice to have the vocal polish, though ( "Ripple" ).
Now the album "Shakedown Street," for me , is the extreme case , of "…dude... you have to hear these songs live, they are really good live, no shit ..."

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Poster: hseamons Date: Mar 6, 2010 1:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I'm a big Terrapin Station fan. First album I purchased, then Dead Set, which was the beginning of it all...

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: Mar 7, 2010 7:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

American Beauty
Workingman's
Anthem

In that order...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 6, 2010 7:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Studio album listening (currently)

1. American Beauty by a long shot
2. Workingman's
3. First album

The only other one i have on the computer is Wake but I don't think I listen to it once/year. I think all those songs are better live.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 9:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Hey--that's an interesting counter to my whole rant the past couple of days...Cool counter point perhaps, but I couldn't properly judge the "truth" of it, but I can see it being so...of course the contrarian could argue that because it was all downhill after 71, of course albums sucked too, and live was amazingly, the lesser of two evils...[big fat JK! there...seriously!]

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 7, 2010 4:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Well I am not sure WHICH rant you are referring to, but this did make me think about you tying up your relatives and forcing them to listen to RT3-2 vs. Winterland '73. I do think if you picked your victims in a true unbiased fashion and did that comparison you would likely get the result that you desired. The reason for this has nothing to do with which disc is better but which one is more approachable. I think the music of '71 is far more approachable for the naive listener than that of '73 or as you pointed out your beloved '68 (which occupied my extended dog walk last night). I just think this makes listening to GD music similar to listening to classical or jazz music or drinking wine. You don't start off as newbie with the most complex stuff.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 7, 2010 6:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Yep--you nailed it! That's why the 68 stuff would never fly with the newbies either (unless they were really into music in general I suppose, jam fans or some such). And, if you'd like to read more about what makes this pathetic "over-poster" tick, you can read my "Tell All" somewhere around here with vaps--for what it's worth, I love kicking this around with the likes of you, jgl and Rob as much as anyone else, and it's not just that I am bucking to pass Dire in the "posting champion" category either...if I could get out to try the new camera, I would, but the damn knee has me pinned down for another few days...have been playing with it from the easy chr though; great little device, with nice existing macro, though I will have to get another lens if I really want to go on to the big time in that regard.

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Poster: thebone Date: Mar 7, 2010 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

1) Blues for Allah
2a,2b) Workingman's Dead/American Beauty
3) Wake of the Flood

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Poster: dilcurrie Date: Mar 7, 2010 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

1) Blues for Allah
2)Aoxoamaoxoa
3) Anthem of the Sun.
4)= Workingmans Dead / American Beauty

That said there are bits of every album I enjoy.

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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Blues For Allah has a great sound to it. Mellow and Jazzy with great tunes recorded at their peak...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I guess it was obvious from my ramblings of late:

1) Beauty
2) Work
3) First
4) Aox

Those orders switch back and forth regularly...I also listen to the out-takes of Aox a great deal...and the expanded versions of those from Gold Rd Box Set.

So, my question for you all: if you had to pick three songs, and you were told, if you do NOT convert this person that has NEVER heard the DEAD to a stage of at least "yeah, they sound okay..." (ie, if they said "ho hum" they'd put you to death), what would you pick?

I virtually guarantee that each and everyone of you would pick a studio album set of tunes...recall, they've NEVER heard the DEAD. Ave American guy/gal...any age. Rest assured, I would NOT pick 12-29-68 or 9-19-70...whenever I play those for a complete newbie I have to do way too much explaining as it rolls along...

Be honest now.

If it is a live song or three, which ones would you trust your life to?

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 6, 2010 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Studio versions of Uncle John's Band, Friend of the Devil, and Ripple. I wholeheartedly agree with you on the supremacy of studio albums for getting a complete newbie to concede that they're pretty good. Close seconds would be Sugar Magnolia and Scarlet Begonias.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I'd take those five to my contest in a heartbeat, CCD. Good ones. I'd offer BDPal, even Attics...or Box. Althea even.

But, even my fav UNJB, the one on the expanded Work, which is actually from 10-4-70, not DEC as listed, wouldn't be the one I'd use over the studio...

And, if I wanted them to hear StSt, I'd (shuddder), even use the Aox over my famed 6-14-68 (even if it was a SBD).

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 6, 2010 7:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Box of Rain
Scarlet Begonias
UJB

Although I think I was tasked with introducing someone I might consider Skull and Roses as a better alternative to a true live show. PITB, NFA>GDTRFB and Bertha.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 8:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Oh yeah! Might even pick a JSt or BEW from Euro--good pt!

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Mar 7, 2010 7:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I mostly agree with your "newbie" theory ; but it would depend on the person .
I know people that are not Deadheads, who really love that Live Dead "Dark Star" .
I know a guy who's favorite Dead album is Inferred Roses !
Besides the ,"live versions better" point, the other reasons I don't often listen to the studio albums is that I know them inside out, don't really need to hear them . Also , since I like all the Dead's eras , to some extent, there is always a stack of stuff I haven't listened to yet ! And that is mostly the fault of this site, and the forum posts !

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Poster: Headphone Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

What about the original, first version of Aoxomoxoa? Is that even available anywhere now? It has a very different mix of "What's Become of the Baby", among others.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Here's my latest and best transcription of the original mix. It's very clean and detailed. Please don't download unless you already own a commercial copy:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5347174

And of course the original mix beats hell out of the well-intentioned but misguided remix.

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Poster: Headphone Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Thanks alot Lou!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:25pm
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I think some PIRATE kidnapped the original baby and took her to some BAY.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Funny. I'm not that subtle it appears.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Mar 8, 2010 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

My favorite is From The Mars Hotel and I do still listen to it, especially the Phil songs

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

DD & SCb: MoftheM and Wheel are two of my favs too that really do require the studio version...meant to mention that in the earlier post...that said, with Arb, and in fact SCB too, the MoftheM transitions into DS are something to die for...not always done "picture perfect", IMHO, but still darn fine...Feb thru Apr of 69 of course.

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Workingman's Dead for purity and expression.

Blues for Allah for innovation.

I think both of these albums are masterpieces, and American Beauty too, to a lesser extent.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

I occasionally listen to Built to Last!

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Poster: GennyBenni Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:50am
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*vomit*

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Mar 6, 2010 10:54am
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must have been some potent shrooms g-b!!~lol~~ :)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 6, 2010 2:49pm
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GB--you may be a kid punk in my book (this is meant with the greatest affection and ENVY...trust me), but you described those two just as I would...and though we don't often see eye to eye, hats off to you...

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Poster: huntr Date: Mar 6, 2010 6:48pm
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Anthem is the only one I ever listened to with any regularity

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 6, 2010 4:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Favorite Dead studio albums ? ( do you listen to them ?)

Aox (original) - Anthem - Wake - Blues - Work - First - American

...in that order